Mods.

I wanna put some input on our mods.
They seem to make all the decisions for us-It's their approval that gets new things put in the site. If we're going to run things that way, like congress, I'd like to be able too put my two cents in. In other words, electing mods, or at least having some input in what choices are made.

I'm not saying that our mods make bad decisions, I just want more power too the people here that are like me- No rank or anything really to influence 'round the site.

I get what your saying, that you want to have more imput, but if there was a rather big change to the forum and Shadow didn't ask all the mods they might feel kind of offended

I also think, however, that you guys have more power than you think! If you guys didn't like an idea I don't think it would matter what the mods thought XD

And if we gave some power to you, and other 'not mod' people then we'd have to give it to everyone, so things could get kind of complicated. If we asked what every member thought of each new idea it would take a year+ to make any changes.

Basicly by Shadow/ the Mods posting things in the lightblub section we're giving you and every other member of TWG a chance to comment, we could just make changes without asking anybody, so I think we're doing OK

As for electing Mods, I don't know. I think that would turn into a popularity contest Not to mention right now we don't need any more Mods because you guys are so good

Wait for other people to comment though, they may have other thoughts.

I'd reply, but I can't. I don't know what to say.
Electing mods - well, I don't know where you're going with this. I think people would just elect the most popular/their friends. They wouldn't nominate the people who were really helping. xP
And as for the lightbulb section: I think everyone can have their say, but for example, we want a new feature, anyone can just ignore it, but a mod needs to help with it, view posts in it, as it's their job. Do you get where I'm going?
I'm sorry if I put you down.

Wait... I don't quite understand your example Arianna...

Meh. I get it.

Well, say that there is a new section. The mods will have the responsibility to make sure that the section (whatever it may be) is going smoothly, that the posts are moderated, and stuff like that. However, if a normal user doesn't like it, they may just choose to ignore it.
I'm sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings. I'm having a really bad day.

I can vaugley see what your saying.

But, it's you guys who give the ideas. In the Lightbulbs, we have to have the mods approve, just the way we have to have Shad approve. We discuss important things, such as censored words, grammar problems...a bunch of stuff. Shad chose us because we did something. If we starting electing, it kinda declines the mod power. xD

What I'm saying is: the mods have to know what's going on. We hafta approve stuff, so it can happen.

Arianna wrote:Well, say that there is a new section. The mods will have the responsibility to make sure that the section (whatever it may be) is going smoothly, that the posts are moderated, and stuff like that. However, if a normal user doesn't like it, they may just choose to ignore it.
I'm sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings. I'm having a really bad day.

No hard feelings Ari, Kay?

I get what you mean.

Jesus4Eternity wrote:I can vaugley see what your saying.

But, it's you guys who give the ideas. In the Lightbulbs, we have to have the mods approve, just the way we have to have Shad approve. We discuss important things, such as censored words, grammar problems...a bunch of stuff. Shad chose us because we did something. If we starting electing, it kinda declines the mod power. xD

What I'm saying is: the mods have to know what's going on. We hafta approve stuff, so it can happen.

I'm not sure our opinions mean much, Amanda, after all we are the Mods XD Still, I agree with you.

xD, Yeah. Mods commenting about themselves. xD

I pretty much agree with everyone who has posted so far.

I mean, mods kind of our supposed to run the site, because without leaders... We wouldn't really get anywhere, right? I'd like to believe that we could easily make a decision as a group, but it's just not going to work that way. Besides, like people have pointed out, we do get a say in most things being done on the site, it's just that the mods have to approve it.

Though, I do quite like your idea of electing a mod. I mean, maybe once we get too many members for the mods now to handle (not saying that they couldn't handle it, but we don't want to make their jobs stressful, right?) it might be a good idea to have a group election. And I know that it's a possibility that the most popular may be voted in, but if Shadow and the mods choose the candidates, then it shouldn't be a problem because the most popular would have to be qualified to be voted in. Perhaps, now that I think about it, the election could be used only if Shadow and the mods are having trouble choosing between certain people. So, let's say they were stuck between making Wilma or Fred (first names that popped into my head) a mod, they could have an election. But the votes would have to be kept private, perhaps through PM so that no one's feelings would get hurt. But I think that we'd have to be split off into different groups as users so that it's not only Shadow who's getting the PM overload... Like for example, users number 1-20 on the member list could PM Amanda their votes, users number 20-40 could PM Jade their votes, and etc...

Catch my drift? Lol.

Yep!
(Sortof)
XD

Haha, yeah. I kinda rambled there. XP

Yes,Yes you did.

Mods: Correct me if I'm wrong.

I think we give you a lot of power. We let you pitch ideas to make the site better, and we take into consideration what you guys want before something big actually happens. Just because you're not a mod doesn't mean that you shouldn't be able to have some power on the site, and you can. You're feedback and ideas help the mods, and you can do so many other things as well.

Yes, some things we do without asking you, like censoring words, and having archives, but if you don't like something we do, please tell us and we'll discuss it. We don't want you to feel bad because you don't think you have power. You have a lot more power than you think.

About electing mods: The moderators have been dicussing new mods for awhile now, and there are so many of us now. The site is still small and we don't need that many mods, because you guys are so great and you follow the rules. The only things we really have to do is close or move threads. We talk a lot before choosing a new mod... not that I would know, because I am the newest one, but I've seen old posts and there are some big discussions. We were chosen for a reason. I'm not saying that you guys aren't helpful, because you are really great, but, I don't know.

I'm glad that you posted this, because it gives me a new view on how we do things around here. I'm sorry that you feel this way, and I'm sorry if you think this post is mean.

I don't.
I'm just pitching an idea, only partially out of frustation.I just want to put my two cents in.

Coming from yet another mod, this may not mean much, but...


You do. When you made this, you do. When you have an idea, you do. when you tell Shadow that you don't like a certain feature, you do. I don't exactly understand what you mean by that, because members put a bunch in. Could you explain?

Dragon Cat wrote:I don't.
I'm just pitching an idea, only partially out of frustation.I just want to put my two cents in.

You don't what?

Think it's mean.

You guys said basically everything for me . . . xDD

Well, I'mma say it again anyway.

If you feel like we're taking over too much, sorry about that . . . lol, I didn't mean to do that. I do try to let all the users get a say in the more casual things. For example, I have a thread in lightbulbs . . . now, I coulda just implemented that automatically. But I don't really wanna do anything without at least the mods opinions . . . and of course everyone else's opinions matter, too. If none of the normal members liked the ideas, we probably wouldn't do them.

But the mods opinions do matter to me more than most opinions, just because they're, well, the mods. They do have to have at least some authority for that; so even if all the members love it, I won't do it unless all the mods (myself included) can come to some sort of agreement on it, since they're in charge, too.

As for elections . . . well, Mo's idea about it is great. Like, that could work, if us mods chose the candidates and had a private election. But even so, I'd worry about hurt feelings, because obviously if somebody loses they're going to know it's because the majority of the site didn't want them as a moderator. I think it's better to let things stay as private as we do, therefore, where myself or one of the mods suggests a user and we all discuss it until we come to a decision about them. Because that way, if a user gets chosen, there's not as many hurt feelings. (I hope.)

I'm glad you posted this, anyway, Mea. I like hearing what ya guys have to say.

shadowsowner888 wrote:You guys said basically everything for me . . . xDD

Well, I'mma say it again anyway.

If you feel like we're taking over too much, sorry about that . . . lol, I didn't mean to do that. I do try to let all the users get a say in the more casual things. For example, I have a thread in lightbulbs . . . now, I coulda just implemented that automatically. But I don't really wanna do anything without at least the mods opinions . . . and of course everyone else's opinions matter, too. If none of the normal members liked the ideas, we probably wouldn't do them.

But the mods opinions do matter to me more than most opinions, just because they're, well, the mods. They do have to have at least some authority for that; so even if all the members love it, I won't do it unless all the mods (myself included) can come to some sort of agreement on it, since they're in charge, too.

As for elections . . . well, Mo's idea about it is great. Like, that could work, if us mods chose the candidates and had a private election. But even so, I'd worry about hurt feelings, because obviously if somebody loses they're going to know it's because the majority of the site didn't want them as a moderator. I think it's better to let things stay as private as we do, therefore, where myself or one of the mods suggests a user and we all discuss it until we come to a decision about them. Because that way, if a user gets chosen, there's not as many hurt feelings. (I hope.)

I'm glad you posted this, anyway, Mea. I like hearing what ya guys have to say.

Zomg.

It's the big Shadow opinion we've all been waiting for. XPP

But yeah, I agree. What I meant by not as many hurt feelings is that the losing candidate won't know by how much they lost. So for example, they could have been either losing by 1 vote or a 100 for as much as they'd know. Whereas with a poll... Well, feelings would be hurt even worse. I mean, it's not a big deal with the Featureds and stuff because it's not so personal, so polls are fine for that.

Augh! xD OMG, from the moment you said that first line, I got that idea you had of me as the ruler stuck in my head again. Remember this dude?

xD

Yeah, that's true . . . still, though, I just think it's too big a risk. xD With featureds, it's amazing to even be nominated at all, and it's not as much of a big deal. So I don't see a problem with that, but with the mod elections . . .

Yes!! The ruler! Of course I remember.

Yeah, I totally get what you mean. It's probably best done in secret, anyway...

It's like, you mods are FBI agents. And your little secret section in the forums where you have your little top secret discussions (yes, I know about it... ) is like The Pentagon or something. I don't even know what The Pentagon really is, but it sounds cool... XP

OMG. Mo's a spy!! She's an enemy spy!!

Lol, I don't either. xD But I like that description.

Muahahaha.

Haha, yeah. I think it's like some sort of military thinger...

But I guess we're off topic. XP